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If the Self Is an Illusion Why Do I Feel Pain?

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If the self is an illusion, why do I feel pain? After doing yoga meditations and exploring sensations in the body, a questioner wants some clarity on the experiences of pain and pleasure.

Rupert explains that if the Buddha had an abscess he would have experienced pain. Who is experiencing that? Consciousness. But pleasure and pain are not inherent in the sensation. For instance, the experience of weight on the chair is a concept that's added to the sensation. If you strip away the concepts and reduce the sensation to the raw experience all you find is knowing.

If you stay with the experience itself the conceptual layers that we add fall away. We normally think pain becomes more bearable when we are able to avoid it but it actually becomes more bearable when we are able to go deeply into it. I don't mean to imply that we would cease experiencing pleasure and pain but the discomfort will be greatly diminished.

*This video is taken from one of Rupert's inperson retreats at The Vedanta – 3rd to 10th June, 2022. To view and book for upcoming retreats (many of which can be attended online via livestream) go to:

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Timestamps:

0:00 What Are Sensations?
1:31 Why Do I Feel Pain?
1:56 What Is Pain?
2:45 Understanding Pain And Pleasure
2:57 Neutralising Pain
3:27 Is Pain Real?
4:01 The Difference Between Pleasure And Pain
5:08 Making Pain More Bearable
6:18 Can Meditation Heal Pain?

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