Feeding predator fish like a tiger Shovelnose Catfish can be intense. I really like feeding my predator fish this mixed gourmet food. It’s 10 popular brands mixed into one and sold on amazon.

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I need to talk about two thing. One, the Seachem Prime water conditioner. So it neutralizes the ammonia and I heard something about that only being effective for a certain amount of time. I am using this in my fishin cycle. I would like to avoid heavy water changes as much as possible, but I'm having to do about 40% every 23 days due to ammonia. My question is if the water conditioner has already done it's job in removing chlorine etc would it be harmful to add more Prime for the sole purpose of neutralizing ammonia after it's "worn off" in place of of a water change? And also I have a question about using salt/heat for ich. The directions on the salt say to use 1 tbsp for every 5 gallons, so let's say I've treated my whole tank. When do I re dose on the salt?

Don’t add a tiger Shovelnose Catfish. You can add it to neutralise ammonia it only last 24 hours. By doing this you are not allowing the tank to cycle though. By locking up the ammonia your bacteria isn’t being fed as much as it should and will not colonise quickly. Fish in cycles are an outdated method as it harms your fish. Take the fish out and cycle. Ich and other illnesses will continue as ammonia if it doesn’t kill your fish weakens them and makes them more open to disease.

This. Just do daily 100% water changes with Prime for whatever container you move your fish to while your tank cycles. It'll cycle quicker and be much safer for your fish by doing a fishless cycle.

That won’t work as whatever container your fish are in needs cycled media to be safe. Take them back to the shop and ask if they can mind them until your tank is cycled. OR ask them if you can buy some cycled media from them.

Taking back to the shop or cycled media is obviously the best option, but 100% daily water changes are an option as well (albeit a more labor intensive one). It's especially popular for axolotl keepers, as those new to the hobby are often new to cycling as well. However a "fishin" cycle would be more likely to kill an axolotl, so 100% daily water changes are done instead until the main tank is fishless cycled.

I don't mean to be rude but the fish are staying and I do not have another container for them anyways. I am trying to do the best with what I have. My filter is looking pretty grimey so I'm hoping it will be cycled soon. It's been over a month. But yeah I've learned a lot in the last month and one of those things would be that I will never again do a fish in cycle.

Do you know anyone with an already cycled tank or can you talk to a local fish store about getting some cycled filter media? That will greatly speed up the process. If you have already waited a month, your cycle should be close to complete.

However no dosing prime isn't a viable solution. Just do regular water changes, as you probably have 2 week more max to go. As for Ich, I'd say get a ich medicine. The salt and high temperature is a hit or miss. Keep treating a week after you stop seeing any signs of the disease to get rid of it permanently.

From Seachem's website Prime® may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity. It contains a binder which renders ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate nontoxic, allowing the biofilter to more efficiently remove them.

I’m hmm not sure about that. Would like to understand how it binds and what makes it non toxic ( not refuting that ) but what effect this has on bacteria being able to process the bound ammonia. From my understanding it’s more difficult to process and should really be used so you have an opportunity to water change the ammonia out.

Well once you do understand it, you'll know why. The other reason it doesn't make a difference is you still have to do water changes to keep the ammonia at a level that actually will allow the cycle to take place or it'll stall anyway. There is such a thing as too much.

Prime will not harm an establishing cycle. it converts ammonia to ammomium NH3 which is availiable for nitrosoma bacteria to eat. on a regular dose it will be effective for 24 hrs on a double dose + its effective for 48 hrs. but no more than 48. you can safely dose up to 5x. if you have 1ppm ammonia and 0 nitrite than a regular dose will be fine but if you have 1 ppm amonia and 1 ppm nitrite then a double dose is needed. if you have a combined 5 ppm of ammomia and nitrite then use the max 5 doses. good luck.

Yes you can keep adding prime.
Just mix the salt to the appropriate measurements to the new water going in the tank and the salinity will stay the same.