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The Chinese thought it was an elaborate joke | Helen Joyce

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John and Helen discuss why transgenderism and gender theory are a Western phenomenon.

Helen Joyce was Britain Editor at The Economist, where she worked for over 15 years before she
joined the gendercritical campaign group Sex Matters as a director. She is the author of Trans:
When Ideology Meets Reality.

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