@stormzy's new album, This Is What I Mean, was three years and a pandemic in the making. We sat down with Stormzy and the founder of the original Def Jam label, Rick Rubin, to listen to the album in full.

00:00 Intro
05:54 Fire + Water
07:43 Fire + Water
09:00 Fire + Water
10:27 This Is What I Mean
14:02 Fire Babe
16:42 Please
18:12 Sampha’s Plea
19:16 Need You
20:11 Hide & Seek
21:43 My Presidents Are Black
23:59 Holy Spirit
25:51 Bad Blood
26:25 I Got My Smile Back
27:30 Give it to The Water

They first spoke the day before the start of the recording sessions for the album — where Rick offered him advice — but here they meet for the first time to discuss the artistic process Stormzy went through putting the album together. Over an afternoon spent listening to the album and talking, they discuss everything from defying the audience's expectations of you, being creatively selfish in the best possible way, and growing, both as a man and as a musician.

The album Stormzy made is full of honesty, rawness and emotion. It’s an album about God and love, about coming to terms with the end of a famous and wellpublicised relationship; about working through those feelings, examining your faults, looking deep inside yourself, and working out who you want to be as a man. As Stormzy says: “It's not about defying what everyone thinks about you; it’s about being totally true to yourself.”A global platform for emerging talent, iD celebrates fashion, culture, individuality and youth.



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