I got this cheap mid pipe with baffle from AliExpress and shipped directly from China for 47 bucks with shipping for my 2023 890 R. Shipping was about 89 days from China which is a little faster than normal things I get from China. Was looking to lose a little weight and get rid of that crazy heat it puts out by your lower legs. The Arrow pipe that most people have been using is around 340 bucks and I'm cheap Some buddies ask me to compare sound between them. The new pipe is a little louder, but really not much at all. I think it has a nice throaty sound without being too loud. It's really about the same sound level to me with a slight lower pitch to it. The stock with the cat was around 7 lbs and this was about 1.5 lbs. Fit was fine and did not have any air leaks using the same stock gaskets. This makes up for my super heavy EE skip plate on got on this bike. Keep in mind if you remove the stock cat, you might not be street legal.