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Douglas Rushkoff and Grant Morrison have a habit of getting together after major world events. In this interview Morrison discusses the magical power of storytelling, transforming the world through narrative, and using magick and metaphors to envision a more distributed world.

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Douglas Rushkoff coined such expressions as "viral media," "digital natives" and "social currency," and advises governments, communities and businesses on the impact of technology on society's future. Named one of "the world’s ten most influential thinkers" by MIT, Rushkoff won the Marshal McLuhan Award for media writing and the Neil Postman award for Public Intellectual Activity.

Rushkoff hosts the Team Human podcast, made four PBS Frontline documentaries including Generation Like and The Merchants of Cool, and wrote many bestselling books including Team Human, Present Shock, Program or Be Programmed and Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus. He founded the Laboratory for Digital Humanism at CUNY/Queens College, where he is professor of media theory and digital economics.

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