From the Lead by Example with Bob Meyers: J.Cole is one of the world’s most successful rappers and producers, but he tells Bob all if it wouldn’t have been possible if he didn’t have a seed of irrationality as a kid. He sits down with the Warriors President and GM to discuss what his first love was: music or basketball, and if he truly believed he had a shot at the NBA. He explains why he didn’t need a Grammy for validation, why he lets very few people into his innercircle and flashes back to when he used to smoke cigarettes as a sixyearold.

Vote Lead by Example to win best interview from an indvidual episode for the 2024 Webby Awards: http://bit.ly/4cF1itU