Levelup Engineering Podcast episode 56: From Manager to Director: Guide to Managing Managers Interview with Mike Seavers (VP of Online Development, Epic Games)

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In this interview we're covering:

Differences between managing ICs and managing managers
Story of transitioning from manager to director
Necessary skills to managing managers
Common mistakes of new directors
Warning signs for new directors
Choosing from director candidates
Support from executive leaders to new directors
Story of coaching a director new to managing managers
Bonus advice to managing managers

Excerpt from the interview:

"I first became a director and started managing managers about 17 years ago. My team consisted of five subteams, about 50 people combined, and I had six or seven managers reporting to me. We were going through an Agile transformation.

I spent all my time focusing internally, working with my team. I attended standups, we were teaching Scrum and we were introducing new tooling to manage the Agile process. We changed our release method and other internal processes.

I was proud of what we managed to accomplish, but when it came time for performance reviews, I received the worst review of my career. My peers and everyone around me outside my team said in their feedback that they had no relationship with me. They didn’t know what I was doing, they just saw me making changes in engineering without involving the leaders of the project management team, the release management team, or the QA team."