Recorded on February 4, 2020

In conversation with Mark Bowden, most recently author of The Last Stone: A Masterpiece of Criminal Interrogation

David Zucchino is a contributing writer for The New York Times. He has covered wars and civil conflicts in more than three dozen countries. Zucchino was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his dispatches from apartheid South Africa and is a fourtime Pulitzer Prize finalist for his reporting from Iraq, Lebanon, Africa, and innercity Philadelphia. He is the author of Thunder Run and Myth of the Welfare Queen. In his new book, Zucchino tells the story of the 19thcentury North Carolina port city that, while once a burgeoning example of a mixedrace community, exploded into racial violence that erased the progress made by formerly enslaved people and their children.