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This is a fan request that came through recently and if you guys have suggestions for future topics you’d like to see me cover, then use the google form in the description box below. I’ve got some amazing suggestions from you guys, so keep them coming. Today’s story involves a feud between two bands who were huge in the 90’s. The Smashing Pumpkins and Collective Soul. Stay tuned for the full story.
Collective Soul ascended to prominence in the mid 90’s with their 1994 hit single Shine from their debut album. The song was a huge hit topping the US Mainstream rock charts and it was also a crossover hit peaking at number 11 on the US billboard hot 100.
Ed Roland, the singer for Collective Soul, recalled to Songfacts how he came up with the song revealing "I had riffs – this was the late '80s and I was writing a lot of songs. I called it "drone," I was in a band at the time. But I always had the "Shine" riff, and I thought, "That's a cool riff." Then I came home and spent the night with my parents and Dean, who is 10 years younger than me – I didn't even know he played guitar. So he was playing guitar, and I joined in. I just showed him the riff, and I was like, "I need to finish this." So, I literally just wrote it right there, with Dean, sitting in my parents' living room. I didn't think anything about it. I probably wrote it in 1989, and it wasn't out until 1994" he'd say.
Because of the lyrical content of Shine, some in the press labeled collective soul as a christian or religious band because of the mention of the word heaven in the lyrics. Roland elaborated to Popmatters"I remember around the time ["Shine" came out] getting into an argument with a writer who said, 'You're a Christian band.' I said, 'No, we're not.' 'Well, you have the word heaven in your song.' And I said, 'Well, so does Led Zeppelin. I don't remember anyone saying they were a Christian band.'"
It was during that the time that Shine took off, The Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan slammed Collective Soul in the press referring to Frontman Roland as a "shameless rip off artist" According to Cleveland.com Corgan was upset over how similar the song sounded to, Drown. According to Cleavland.com Corgan was so upset that he sued Collective Soul in the mid 90’s but Roland was able to produce a demo of the song that dated back to 1989, which predated the formation of the Smashing Pumpkins. It was rumored that Collective Soul for their second album, which was self titled and came out in 1995 wrote a diss track about corgan in 1995 called Smashing Young Man. While Corgan isn’t named in the track there are lyrics like "syntheticlike," and saying he lives in a "selflit spotlight
And as recently as 2020 Ed Roland gave an interview to Cleavland.com where he clarified what the song was about saying
veryone thought that because he was busy smacktalking about us all the time which didn't bother me at all. It's just a fun song, and the next thing you know Billy starts coming at me again and I'm like, "Dude! No, no no..." And finally, there was one point where I just said, "Yeah, it was written about him, sure. Whatever he wants to think, I don't care." But I love Smashing Pumpkins. If I ever met Billy, I'd tell him what a great musician, great songwriter he is. I've got nothing negative to say. I've got other things to do in my life than to bitch about people he'd say.
The Smashing Pumpkins would surprisingly cover “Shine” at a show in 2010 briefly and heres what happened..” Whoa, heaven let your light shine down. I hate that song. What a rip off of my band. Fast forward to
2019 and Billy Corgan was answering fan questions on Instagram when one fan asked the frontman if he ever made peace with collective soul to which he replied F*** Collective Soul. Now and always.So that does it for today's video guys thanks for watching. Go listen to both of the songs and let me know if you see any similarities. As always if you have any suggestions for future topics use the google form down below. Take care.