Whilst in Las Vegas, Patrick McKeown met with Ultramarathon Runner and Barkley Marathon First Finisher, Ihor Verys.

One of Verys' trademarks a secret he's honed during training is his ability to breathe through his nose in everything but the most extreme efforts. It helps him regulate his exertion.

Verys who met Patrick recently for lunch in Las Vegas learned his secret breathing techniques from Patrick's book, The Oxygen Advantage. Verys now calls the book one of his ultrarunning bibles.

This is a must listen episode for all runners!