In this episode, first released on the “Transfigured” YouTube channel, John Vervaeke and Sam Tideman explore the future of AI, grappling with ethical, philosophical, and spiritual questions surrounding the creation of 'AI sages.' Delving into the nature of wisdom, they consider whether machines can truly comprehend truth, goodness, and beauty. As they examine embodiment, purpose, and sociocultural context, Vervaeke and Tideman ponder if AI can become wise and understand vastly different minds. From historical sage archetypes to AI cults, they tackle complex technology and morality intersections, even venturing into AI's role in spiritual realms. Join us for a profound reflection on imbuing AI with wisdom and the existential risks and opportunities ahead.

Sam Tideman, an accomplished healthcare data scientist with an MS in Biostatistics, blends his analytical acumen with a passion for theology in his podcast, "Transfigured." The podcast features longform discussions exploring the identity of Jesus, reflecting Sam's unique intersection of scientific expertise and spiritual inquiry.


Glossary of Terms

Silicon Sages: Hypothetical AI entities that have achieved a state of enlightenment

Molokian Forces: Forces that manipulate and control AI development for their own purposes

Resources

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John Vervaeke YouTube
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Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophical Quest with Vervaeke, Pageau, and Schindler    • Wisdom in the Age of AI: A Philosophi...  

AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist    • AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Pat...  

History of Philosophy Without Any Gaps https://www.historyofphilosophy.net/

Personification: Using the Dialogical Self in Psychotherapy and Counselling John Rowan https://www.amazon.com/Personificatio...

Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm Richard C. Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/ManyMindsOne...

The Others Within Us: Internal Family Systems, Porous Mind, and Spirit Possession Robert Falconer https://www.amazon.com/OthersWithin...

Quotes

"I want to convey that I am of the firm conviction that my proposal has risks in it. I don't want to pretend that there's some sort of dewyeyed optimism here. I'm making a proposal that I think is sort of the best that can be made within otherwise hellacious alternatives." John Vervaeke [00:02:39]

“If you don't put the ability to care about selfdeception and motivated selfcorrection into these machines, they will fall prey to the fact that intelligence is only weakly predictive of rationality.” John Vervaeke [00:17:47]

Chapters

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:01:20] The Possibility of AI Sages and Conjuring AI Demons

[00:04:40] Thresholds and Decision Points in AI Development

[00:09:20] Enlightened AI and the True, Good, and Beautiful

[00:13:37] Preconditions for Helping AI Become More Wise

[00:19:40] The Importance of Embodiment and Purpose in AI

[00:28:00] Autopoiesis and Normative Orientation in AI

[00:33:20] Wisdom as a Nicheindependent or Contextdependent Concept

[00:38:20] Communicating with an Artificial Intelligence

[00:46:20] Silicon Sages as Great Teachers

[00:50:00] Trusting the Silicon Sages

[00:56:31] Preventing Malicious Use of AI and Cult Leaders

[01:05:20] AI Interaction with Higher Spiritual Beings

[01:14:20] The Increasing Importance of Theology in the Future